Post by Becoming one of the Jews on Sept 25, 2012 11:00:20 GMT -5
Jan 20, 2011 5:34:30 GMT -5 @Truth seeker said:
Jan 6, 2011 17:31:32 GMT -5 @trevor bereck said:
There is only one fold as it says in the bible. Only one true way. It also says there are other sheep not yet of this fold. But there will be one fold in the end. One true way.Trevor, who (person) or what (our church system of fellowship) do you understand to be the "one true way"?
Jesus said in John 14:6 "I am the way".
If we equate a method of worship (eg. our church) with Jesus, that is idolatry. Go down that slippery slope and it leads to all manner of immorality. Sexual abuse of children will be one of the murky depths.
Do you believe those who are taking a stand against sexual immorality amongst the workers to be friends of our church? Friends of Truth? I'm interested in your views.
John 10:15-16 (ESV) "15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd."
Perhaps Jesus meant it this way. One fold being the Jewish believers in him. Other sheep being Gentiles, not of the Jewish fold. One flock, being all who worship God in spirit and in truth (John 4:23).
Jesus also said to the Samaritan woman "we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews" (maybe a reference to the Jewish fold, to which Gentiles were soon to be added).
Think about it prayerfully. Because all that matters is what Jesus wants us to understand from his words.
Best wishes.
It seems to me that you're coming into what God is trying to do with people on the earth. Number one we can read in Malachi where God said that He would give salvation unto the Gentile nations IN ORDER to make the Jews jealous.....
That is happening in the present....
What we need to understand is not that God wants to make "Jews" out of the Gentile nations but that He wants to Make the Gentile nations as His chosen people!
As it is, the Jews have to come into salvation the same way the Gentiles are doing and that is to believe on Jesus Christ....for Jesus said plainly that He whosoever believes on me shall not perish but have everlasting life." It isn't being Jewish that God is after, but being a believer on or in Christ Jesus.
Well to enhance and enlarge our faith in Jesus Christ, we must request that God will increase our faith in jesus Christ.....
Being made like little children....innocent, and pure....being the children of God
Perhaps this will help some of us to realize that being in the fellowship isn't what it is all about, but it is about believing on Jesus Christ and that means to know and understand what Jesus Christ stands for, why the name Jesus became Jesus Christ, etc.....this will make us the "chosen children of God."
Didn't Jesus say He wondered if there would be faith in Him when He returns....sounds like He might have been a bit worried about it, eh?