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Post by spirit and truth on Oct 29, 2007 15:25:10 GMT -5
It seems the KJV refers to the Holy Ghost, where as many subsequent translations call it the Holy Spirit. Any educated guesses as to why? I do not agree with the religious commentary that I found on the internet, My 'hunch' is that the KJV is more correct, and as such, I find that interesting to meditate on the differences of spirit and ghost. a spirit is a spirit, but does a ghost also have a soul, thus the Holy Ghost would have both a spirit and soul, that came from God. just my thoughts.
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Post by no physical body on Oct 29, 2007 18:33:07 GMT -5
We all have a soul, which is the essense of our being.
I guess a ghost has a soul and a spirit, but no body?
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Post by body or soul on Oct 29, 2007 19:09:24 GMT -5
Then we can imagine a spirit to be a spirit, with no soul or body?
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Post by Richard McFarland on Oct 29, 2007 23:34:21 GMT -5
The American Heritage DictionaryColumbia EncyclopediaNeither term Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit implies a body. A "ghost" in the sense that most of the world uses the term today is a soul without a home, wandering with no place to rest forever. This would imply to me a god without the power to control the spirit after death. No way to look at the Power of God as recorded in the Holy Bible.
The terms soul and spirit are interchangeable. (see above)
From the website: Another King James Bible Believer
www.geocities.com/brandplucked/HolyGhost.htmlHoly Ghost, is found in the King James Bible ninety ( 90 ) times and all are in the New Testament. In the King James Holy Bible the term the holy Spirit (small 'h') is found six times while the Holy Spirit (capital 'H') is found once.
Fruit of the Spirit would imply good works produced by our own spirit as produced in the life of Jesus Christ. In modern references to the term Ghost if transferred to this passage in Galatians 5 (Fruit of the Spirit) would refer to Fruit of a dead person and hardly likely.
So the terms ghost and spirit lead us in endless circles with no explanation of meaning other than modern usage but each term prefaced with Holy makes either acceptable before God. The American Heritage DictionaryI prefer to follow the King James Bible because this is what I grew up with and what is accepted in our way. We all must concern ourselves with keeping the terminology with which we refer to our Lord Holy and with the respect and reverence He desires and deserves. Our God is awesome and majestic and merciful to those who are ready and willing to do His will through His Holy Son Jesus Christ.
All Holy Mysteries will come from man's attempt to rationalize, translate, interpret and discover things that were not meant for us while here on earth.
spirit and truth, this was a wonderful post which spurred me to seek knowledge in a place I had never considered before. I do not have answers, just an opinion. Thank you.In the Holy Spirit,
Richard
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Post by ozelaine on Nov 19, 2007 20:51:57 GMT -5
Thank you Richard for a very thought provoking post.
I like to think of the Holy Spirit as "God with us". When we are born again His Spirit comes to live in us, works in us to do His will and not ours.
We can't produce Spiritual fruit of ourselves, it's the Holy Spirit who does that in us. Like a glove which without the hand is powerless and of itself cannot "do" anything. Jesus said this too. Of himself (his human part) he could do nothing. Everything He did was because the Father did it through him.
I read this somewhere which explains the work of the Holy Spirit in salvation.
"The Father elected His people unto righteousness, the Holy Spirit regenerates those people to receive that righteousness and Christ has actually produced that righteousness which is imputed to them."
Blessings, Elaine.
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Post by Joe on Nov 19, 2007 22:07:11 GMT -5
I read this somewhere which explains the work of the Holy Spirit in salvation. "The Father elected His people unto righteousness, the Holy Spirit regenerates those people to receive that righteousness and Christ has actually produced that righteousness which is imputed to them." Is this what you were thinking of Ozelaine? Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
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Post by ozelaine on Nov 20, 2007 7:35:00 GMT -5
That verse sums it up very well Joe. Thank you.
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Post by nancye on Nov 21, 2007 2:31:25 GMT -5
I wanted to say: Wow, think of all THAT! after reading the verse you and Joe are referring to. I'm thinking I really need to meditate upon that verse.... Pardon the "Wow"!
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Post by selah on Nov 21, 2007 17:01:26 GMT -5
That is an exceptionally wonderful verse! I agree! Full of Spirit and Truth!!
Blessings, Linda
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Post by fire on Nov 21, 2007 19:34:27 GMT -5
Who is the Holy Ghost
His names
God - Acts 5
Lord - 2 Corinthians 3
Spirit - 1 Corinthians 2
Spirit of God - 1 Corinthians 3
Spirit of Truth - John 15
Eternal Spirit - Hebrews 9
Attributes of the Holy Spirit
Eternal - Hebrews 9
Omnipotent - Luke 1
Omnipresent - Psalm 139
Speaks - Acts 8 and Acts 13
Loves - Romans 15
Sins against the Holy Spirit
Blasphemy - Matthew 12
Resist in unbelief - Acts 7
Insult - Hebrews 10
Lied to - Acts 5
Grieved - Ephesians 4
Quench - 1 Thessalonians 5
The Holy Spirit in the life of Jesus
Conceived of - Matthew 1
Baptized - Matthew 3
Led by - Luke 4
Filled with power - Luke 4
Witness of Jesus - John 15
Raised Jesus - Romans 8
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