Who is of the Truth?

[bert]

Interesting to read Nathan's mentioning names such as "Clement the apostle." Were people such as Clement of the Truth, or did they belong to apostate groups?
An interesting exercise is to read their writings and see how much they differ from Jesus and the disciples.
I couldn't find much on this Clement, but usually the "give away" is the writer's insistence on his own glory, or the predilection to quote verbatim what is already in the bible, or to insist on laws etc..
Anyone read anything on Clement the apostle (A.D. 96) ?

[nathanb]

1) Bert wrote:
Interesting to read Nathan's mentioning names such as "Clement the apostle." Were people such as Clement of the Truth, or did they belong to apostate groups?

~~~ Hi Bert! my ole friend ;D good to see you posting on this friendly message board. Here is what I know about the two Clements.

#1 Clement of Rome the "apostle" in the 1st century: This Clement of Rome; he may well have been a companion of both Peter and Paul (Phillipians 4:3). On behalf of the church in Rome, he wrote a letter to the Corinthian Church (A.D. 95) in aid to the church leaders who had been outsted by a minority faction.

~~~~~ Writings about Clement of Rome the apostle:
~~ Hermas (A.D. 150) Therefore you will write two books, and you will send the first to Clement and the other to Grapte. And Clement will send his to foreign countries, for permission has been granted to him to do so.

~~ Irenaeus (A.D. 180) Since Clement had seen the blessed apostles and had been convensant with them, this man might be said to have the preaching of the apostles still echoing in his ears and their traditions still before his eyes. Nor was he ALONE!

For there were many others still remaining who had received instructions from the apostles. In the time of this Clement, no small dissension occured among the brethren at Corinth. So the church in Rome dispatched a most powerful letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to peace, renewing their faith, and declaring the tradition which it had lately received from the apostles.

~~~ Origen (A.D. 228) Paul apostle bears witness to the faithful Clement when he says, "With Clement also, and the others, my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life."

~~~ Anastaius (A.D. 390) Papias of Hierapolis, the illustrious, was a disciple of the apostle John who leaned on the bosom of Christ. He was also a disciple of Clement.


#2 Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 150-215) Learned Christian leader at Alexandria, Egypt who was in charge of the catechetical school there. Origin, an apostle/Bishop was one of his pupils. In his largest extant work, Miscellanies, Clement attempted unsuccessfully to wrest the term "gnostic" away from the heretics and give it a Christian meaning.

The above informations came from: A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs by David W. Bercot, Editor.


2) An interesting exercise is to read their writings and see how much they differ from Jesus and the disciples. I couldn't find much on this Clement, but usually the "give away" is the writer's insistence on his own glory, or the predilection to quote verbatim what is already in the bible, or to insist on laws etc.. Anyone read anything on Clement the apostle (A.D. 96) ?[/quote]

~~ They had a lot of problems with false teachings, beliefs, pagan rituals were added within the Catholic (Universal) Church in Rome by false teachers, Bishops, and leadership the in the 3rd-21st century.